So, you bought you beautiful new home for the views of the City, the Bay, the hills beyond and now, a few years down the road, your neighbor has let his scraggly pines grow right into your view. What can you do? If you live in a town with a view ordinance, you may be able to do a lot. Most view ordinances allow you to retain the view you had when you moved in. Have you documented it? Photos of the view, which you must have taken when you fell in love with the property, can help immensely when proving you have a case, whether in court, mediation or in front of a "tree committee."
First, know the rules. Does your town have an ordinance? in Marin, Belvedere, Tiburon, Sausalito and Corte Madera do, these are the towns with the best views (water, bridges, city skyline mostly) and the often the highest home costs. However, even if you don't live in one of those communities, your homeowners' association may have rules for trees and views. Check your local ordinances and your CCRs (if you have them), to be sure.
Then talk to your neighbor about the issue. Will he allow you to trim for your view? If not, you may need a good land use lawyer, specializing in tree law. It is a specialty, one that depends a lot of good expert help from a consulting arborist. Make sure you use a good one if you have the situation evaluated before hiring that attorney. In any event, a good consulting arborist (not just a certified arborist), can help you decide your course of action, even if he's not allowed on the neighbor's property to assess the trees themselves. Looking at the view, the growth patters over the years (this is where the photos help), and other factors give your arborist a good method of assessing the situation to be able to help you talking to the neighbor, working with the tree committee, mediating the situation or in court if all else fails.
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Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Why Tree Dispute Mediation might be Right for You and Your Trees!
Many of you know I have added to my law practice a Tree Dispute Mediation service with my husband, Ray Moritz, an expert consulting arborist/urban forester. Ray has participated in hundreds of mediations around trees, views, hazard issues, wildland fire and the like. I have training in transactional analysis (it helps, let me tell you), and mediation in standard and environmental settings. Together we can help save people time, costs and headaches by using mediation with a neutral scientific expert with no bias toward either side. Resolve your issues by learning what's best for the environment and your relationship with the neighbors. Here
s an article on the subject.
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The problem:
Two neighbors are at an impasse
over one of the neighbors trees that the other neighbor finds unsightly, scary
and messy. The first neighbor, call him
Neighbor A, refuses to hear anything the other neighbor, Neighbor B, says about
his trees. He planted them twenty years ago for privacy and shade and they are
doing the job. If they drop limbs on
Neighbor B’s property, he can just pick them up and consider it free firewood.
And no, he will not consider
cutting down these trees and planting something shorter, cleaner and neater,
even if Neighbor B offers to pay half.
What to do? If Neighbor B truly feels Neighbor A’s trees
are a hazard (the limbs they drop are huge and he fears for the well being of
his dog, his kids, his wife and himself) or even just a nuisance (he’s tired of
picking up debris and having half his yard in shade), he may well hire an
attorney and write Neighbor A a threatening letter. If Neighbor A ignores it,
the two may find themselves in court, with costly attorneys and experts and
staring at a long, grueling legal battle that will ensure there is never any
good will between these two neighbors again. One may even end up moving away
just to avoid the “despot” next door.
Fears and accusations of
harassment, name calling, hang up phone calls, even tree damage or poisoning
may well ensue.
The solution:
How to avoid all this?
Try mediation first, before you
resort to legal action. But not just any
mediation. Because even in mediation,
positions can harden and experts can argue, until an impasse forces the parties
into court anyway.
Try Tree Dispute Resolution with
an experienced neutral tree expert, who works side by side with a neutral attorney
mediator.
Litigation is costly, especially
if each side is forced to hire attorneys and experts, pay court fees, attend
endless depositions and fill out countless paperwork. Try mediation instead. We work with you to
solve the thorny problems that come between neighbors, their trees and their
views. We help you deal with hazard
trees and nuisances. What is unique to
our service is a trained neutral consulting arborist provides expert assistance
in finding the right solution for your situation. Our goal is to keep trees and relationships
healthy and thriving.
Here is what one lawyer said about
the use of neutral experts in mediation:
The expert is jointly hired by both sides and
the cost is shared equally by both sides. The expert’s role is to openly
provide independent, neutral expert information and analysis to both side and
more so, to the process as a whole. The non-aligned expert becomes a mutual
asset and a resource for all parties in developing options for settlement.
Shared costs. Shared usage. Heightened value.
The joint use of a neutral, independent expert is a beautiful thing: The client
pays less money and gets more value. And the experts find it liberating and
freeing, allowing them to do their best work. (Michael Zeytoonian, http://www.disputeresolutioncounsel.com/2009/06/using-neutral-experts-in-mediation/#more-81)
Take your tree
dispute to mediation instead of court.
Use trained, experienced neutrals, including a consulting arborist/urban
forester with more than twenty five years experience helping people with the
same issues facing you now. Share the
cost of having an attorney-mediator and neutral expert serve you, and help
solve those thorny problems.
Save time, save
money, save your relationship with the neighbors.
Try mediation
first.
Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Do you Need to Dispute your Tree Issue with a Neutral Expert?
Reminding our Subscribers of our specialized services
Tree Dispute Mediation
Green Legal Solutions, the law office of Dotty LeMieux, now offers Mediation of Tree and Vegetation disputes in cases involving these issues:
Experienced in hundreds of cases as an expert witness for
Individuals, Insurance companies, agencies and homeowner groups
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Green Legal Solutions, the law office of Dotty LeMieux, now offers Mediation of Tree and Vegetation disputes in cases involving these issues:
- Trees vs. views - Tree damage/neighbor vs. neighbor - Nuisance - Trees gone “bad” Injury - Property damage - Wildland fire
Experienced in hundreds of cases as an expert witness for
Individuals, Insurance companies, agencies and homeowner groups
Dotty E. LeMieux, attorney at law Green Legal Solutions
8 Willow St. San Rafael CA 94901 415-485-1040 Fax: 415-485-1044 coastlaw@earthlink.net "Like" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tree-Dispute-Mediation-a-service-of-Green-Legal-Solutions/134208029947107
Friday, May 11, 2007
EcoSpeakers
I'm pleased to let you all know that both Ray Moritz (the popular San Francisco Chronicle "Ask an Arborist" columnist and, not incidentally, my husband) and I have both joined the team of EcoSpeakers on the subject of the Greening the Urban Environment. The EcoSpeakers homepage is at http://www.ecospeakers.com This is a great organization which provides speakers on many environmental issues.
You can also check out Ray's column on the first Saturday of the month in the SF Chronicle Home section or at sfgate.com http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/qws/ff/qr?term=%22ask+an+Arborist%22&Submit=S&st=s or click on the Ask an Arborist link above.
In other news, I am pleased that this Blog is generating interest and I have been fielding calls from all over the state! Thanks for reading Land Use News. Your comments are most welcome.
Dotty
coastlaw@earthlink.net
Ray will talk mostly about his work in urban forestry, helping home owners and public agencies with tree issues. He's also a fire ecologist, so much of his work is in that area. As a "forensic forestor," Ray works with attorneys on legal cases involving trees, including wildland fire, tree hazards and liability issues. He's also a very entertaining speaker.
We are pleased to join the likes of L. Hunter Lovins, Paul Ehrlich, Huey Johnson, Betsty Rosenberg and others who are members of EcoSpeakers.You can also check out Ray's column on the first Saturday of the month in the SF Chronicle Home section or at sfgate.com http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/qws/ff/qr?term=%22ask+an+Arborist%22&Submit=S&st=s or click on the Ask an Arborist link above.
In other news, I am pleased that this Blog is generating interest and I have been fielding calls from all over the state! Thanks for reading Land Use News. Your comments are most welcome.
Dotty
coastlaw@earthlink.net
Tuesday, October 17, 2006
More on the Baffling Boundary Trees
or LOOK BEFORE YOU LOP!
A commenter writes that a tree overhanging her dock was causing a concern it might fall and damage the dock. She had trimmed overhanging branches before, and the neighbor had never complainted. So she thought since the tree leaned her way, if was ok to cut it down.
Whoops! The neighbor has now taken her to Small Claims court, where the damage limit is up to $7500.
What should she do? She thinks the trunk might actually have been on the property line; if so, she may be liable for only half the value of the tree, since she would be responsible for half its upkeep. If it was truly in danger of falling and causing damage, its value would be lower and its hazard potenial higher. Too bad she didn't have it assessed by a consulting arborist before taking matters into her own hands.
Nevertheless, it is not too late for her to get expert advise. She can still have a consulting arborist assess the situation. Does she have photos of the tree before she cut it down? Is there any wood left that can be evaluated for disease or other stressers that may have devalued the tree?
Another step may be to have a survey done to determine if it was truly on the property line. All of these things can be costly however, so she may want to negotiate with the neighbor over the value of the tree and cost to replace with one that won't overhang her dock.
The moral of this story might be summed up as "Look before you Lop." In the long run, you can save time, money and your relationship with your neighbor if you get all the facts and are willing to work things out first.
A commenter writes that a tree overhanging her dock was causing a concern it might fall and damage the dock. She had trimmed overhanging branches before, and the neighbor had never complainted. So she thought since the tree leaned her way, if was ok to cut it down.
Whoops! The neighbor has now taken her to Small Claims court, where the damage limit is up to $7500.
What should she do? She thinks the trunk might actually have been on the property line; if so, she may be liable for only half the value of the tree, since she would be responsible for half its upkeep. If it was truly in danger of falling and causing damage, its value would be lower and its hazard potenial higher. Too bad she didn't have it assessed by a consulting arborist before taking matters into her own hands.
Nevertheless, it is not too late for her to get expert advise. She can still have a consulting arborist assess the situation. Does she have photos of the tree before she cut it down? Is there any wood left that can be evaluated for disease or other stressers that may have devalued the tree?
Another step may be to have a survey done to determine if it was truly on the property line. All of these things can be costly however, so she may want to negotiate with the neighbor over the value of the tree and cost to replace with one that won't overhang her dock.
The moral of this story might be summed up as "Look before you Lop." In the long run, you can save time, money and your relationship with your neighbor if you get all the facts and are willing to work things out first.
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